Tracing of Signature from archive records

Marriage Record

Skanderborg Archives

This archives contains the records that show Frederick Benner as a resident of Skanderborg.
Also shows his signature as a character witness for several marriages. (verified summer of
1988 by John A. Larsen).


BENNER: Preliminary research findings;

1st male - fathers father
2nd male - mothers father
1st female - mothers mother
2nd female - fathers mother

Only known ancestor is mother's father - Jesper Rasmussen
Second male child of Frederick Benner named Christian Ludvig - to that extent he did
not follow the traditional naming pattern. Second wife's (Christine Hedvig Nielsen)
father would have been Niels...... First son of that marriage was Niels Jesper Benner (a
combination of both father-in-laws first names.) A daughter by second marriage was
named Wiwiche - obviously after first wife Vibeche (a common Danish practice).
Second generation only partially followed the naming custom. Third generation
followed the custom to the letter. Fourth generation (Lars Johansen) modified it
CONCLUSION: Frederick Benner wasn't Danish. If he had followed the traditional
pattern his father would be Mathias Benner and his mother Anne ......

PATRONYMIC NAMING PATTERN; None of Frederick Benner's children took the surname "Frederickson" (second generation). The third generation began using a compound name - Christiansen Benner after Christian Ludvig Benner. The fourth generation (i.e.. Lars Johansen) completely dropped the Benner name. CONCLUSION: Benner is not a Danish surname. Other Danish Benner's. From IGI and Ancestral File, all individuals with Benner surname are children or grandchildren of Frederick Benner EXCEPT: a Christian BENNER (married about 1760) and groups of Benners in Aabenraa and Copenhagen. (These are later generations.) Christian Benner would have been born about 1735. He does not tie to Frederick Benner's family chronologically. CONCLUSION: Could have been a younger brother to Frederick Benner (needs to be checked out.) CENSUS EXTRACTS From 1801 Census Source: FT-1801 Name: Christian Ludewig Benner (grandson of Frederick Benner, son of Christian Ludvig Benner, younger brother of Johan Conrad Christiansen Benner) Sex: M Age: 32 (that would make him born in 1769; he was christened 6 Dec 1772) Position in household: Mand Marital Status: Gift Occupation: Forpagter af Parcellen Sophienlund under Silkeborg med Jord Parish: Linaa District: Gjern County: Skanderborg Place name: Silkeborg Howedgaard Household-/family no: 4 Marriage no: 1 Source entry no: B4109 Record no: 686 Comments: "med Jord" Name: TSnke Benner (wife of above listed Christian Ludewig Benner; family group records have her name listed as Tanke.) Sex: K Age: 41 (that would make her born in 1760) Position in household: Koene Marital Status: Gift Occupation: Forpagter af Parcellen Sophienlund under Silkeborg med Jord Parish: Linaa District: Gjern County: Skanderborg Place name: Silkeborg Howedgaard Household-/family no: 4 Marriage no: 2 Source entry no: B4109 Record no: 686 Comments: Tvivl om fornavn Name: Christian Benner (Johan Conrad Christiansen Benner had a son named Christian Christiansen who was christened 13 Dec 1792) Sex: M Age: 8 (that would make him born in 1793) Position in household: Mandens Broder Son Marital Status: Ugift Parish: Linaa District: Gjern County: Skanderborg Place name: Silkeborg Howedgaard Household-/family no: 4 Source entry no: B4109 Record no: 686 From 1834 Census Name: Christian Benner Sex: M Age: 68 (that would make him born in 1766) Marital Status: Enke(mand) [widower] Occupation: Saddelmager, - logerende Parish: Skanderborg Kobstad District: Hjelmslev County: Skanderborg Place name: Skanderborg Title no/address: Lillegade/78 Household-/family no: 107 Source entry no: B1843 Record no: 641 Name: Johann Christian Benner (Johan Conrad Christiansen Benner was christed 23 Oct 1768) Age: 73 (that would make him born in 1761) Marital Status: Enke Occupation: Almisselem Parish: Sindbjerg District: Norvang County: Vejle Place name: Orum Title no/address: Et hus Household-/family no: 53 Source entry no: A2337 Record no: 736 UNRELATED BENNERS (at this point) Christian Benner & Silla Heisel (Aabenraa) daughter: Elizabeth Christiansdatter Benner; christened 28 Jan 1753 Laurs Benner (Skanderborg) daughter Elizabeth Benner; christened 7 Mar 1770 Christian Antoni Benner & Margretha Mercken (Aabenraa) son Christian Rudolph Benn er; born 1 Dec 1776 son Johan Christian Benner; born 9 Mar 1778 son Christian Rudolph Benner; born 17 Mar 1780 daughter Catharina Benner; born 27 Jul 1782 Hans Benner & Ane Margrethe Sloth (Kobenhavn) son Christian Magnus Hansen Benner; born 17 Feb 1795 Hans Benner & Grete (Sollerod, Kobenhavn) son Soren Hansen Benner; christened 28 Jun 1801 Christian Benner & Maria Catharina Lorentzen (Aabenraa) daughter Catharina Sophia Christiansdatter Benner; born 2 Jun 1838 daughter Elisabeth Christiansdatter Benner; born 14 Jan 1840 daughter Catharina Maria Christiansdatter Benner; born 29 Mar 1842 Christian Benner & Elizabeth Boiset (married 23 Jun 1791; Aabenraa) Christian Benner & Botilla Brandt (married 5 Feb 1845; Aabenraa) Johann C Benner & Anna Margretha Jessen (married 2 Aug 1805; Aabenraa) Johann C Benner & Maria Cathrina Lundt (married 17 Apr 1807; Aabenraa) Elisabeth M Benner & Andreas J Brodersen (married 29 Apr 1842; Aabenraa) Anna Maria Benner & Rasmus Hansen (married 19 Dec 1757; Aabenraa) Hedvig C Benner & Christian Bahenberg (married 25 Apr; Holbaek) Bertha Sophie Benner & Johannes Carlsen Told (married 28 Oct 1824; Holbaek) Johann Benner & Ingeborg Jensdatter (married 5 Feb 1773; Kobenhavn) Hans Adolph Benner & Else Marie Thomsen (married 13 Sep 1811; Kobenhavn) Rudolf K Benner & Laura J Jorgensen (married 17 Apr 1874; Odense) Christentze Benner & Christen Christensen (married 3 May 1780; Skanderborg) BENNER NAME: The spelling (Benner) with double n's does not seem to be inner- mixed by locality with any of the other spellings (Bener, Benners, Behnert, Benne, Bennert etc.) CONCLUSION: Benner (spelling) is a stand-alone name. MARKER NAMES: The following names given to Frederick Benner's children are NOT common Danish names: Adolph Amalie Beathe Conrad Ludvig
IGI EXTRACTION: An extraction of IGI Benner given names with birthdates prior to 1735 (about the latest date a younger brother or sister of Frederick Benner could have been born - after whom he might have named one of his own children) sorted by locality showed that the majority of Benners came from Hesse-Nassau, near Darmstadt; about 170 miles directly south of Skanderborg, Denmark. That area of Germany is also called the Palatine. The winter of 1708-1709 (the year of Frederick Benner's birth) was said to be one of the most severe in that area in over a century. Thousands of Palatines had gone to England (and later to Pennsylvania). Some may have gone north to Denmark, The Benner name (with family given names) - also shows up in the 1600's in Holland and Zurich, Switzerland but mostly is confined to Germany.

Area in green is where most German Benner's are from

BENNER PLACE NAMES (from U.S. Gazeteer of Germany) 1.) Benner-Berg (hill) Hill near Paderborn (51 degrees 54 minutes N.; 9 degrees 8 minutes E.) 2.) Bennerscheid (hill, ridge) Farm near Koblenz (50 degrees 42 minutes N.; 7 degrees 19 minutes E.) 3.) Bennerstedt, Forsterei (foresters home) Building south of Luneberg, south of Hamburg (53 degrees 19 minutes N.; 10 degrees 29 minutes E.) Niedersachsen 4.) Rohn (Hill) (49 degrees 23 minutes N; 7 degrees 12 minutes E.) Saar (north of Saarbrucken) 5.) Rohn (populated place) (52 degrees 15 minutes N; 8 degrees 48 minutes E.) Nordrhein-Westfalen (near Bielfeld)
GERMAN EMIGRATION (from American Passenger Arrival Records - pp.30 -31 by Mike Tepper [1988]) Strangely, the most extensive body of German emigration materials of the period is found not in German archives but in the Public Record Office at Kew, namely, papers relating to the distressed Palatine emi- grants recently arrived in London from Rotterdam. Fleeing from a country laid waste by a brutal winter (the winter of 1708-09 was said to be the worst in over a century), and resolved at the same time to escape the thralldom of petty princes and to distance themselves from the havoc wrought by the French armies in the Rhine and Neckar valleys, refugees from the Palatinate, along with others from Baden, Bavaria, Alsace, and Wiirttemberg, poured into England via Rotter- dam with the intention of settling ultimately in Pennsylvania or the Carolinas. Initially, the English government encouraged them in their designs, but before long a number of dissenting voices were raised— first on behalf of English settlers already in the colonies, then by churchmen anxious about the number of Catholics among the Pala- tines, and then by various political factions in this most factional of ages—the result being that by the summer of 1709 thousands of desti- tute Palatines were stranded in tented encampments around London waiting leave to proceed on their journey to the New World.
{source of information} Salt Lake Family History Library Scandinavian Book Area Call No. 948.9/W2n/1984 Author - Jorgen Nielsen (1800 - 1880) Title - De sydtyske kolonisters bosaettekse pa den jyske hede. (Emigration of colonists from southern Germany to the moors of Jutland.) The index contains about 320 families who came to Denmark about 1760 - 1763. No Benners are listed and Skanderborg is not shown as a destination. The preface is reproduced (in Danish) at the end of this page.

Where they came from in Germany ... Where they went to in Denmark

BENNER FAMILY GIVEN NAMES (Second Marriage Names in Parenthesis) (Adolph) (Amalie) Anne Anna possible mother of Frederick BENNER Beate (Cathrine) Christine Christence Christian [Christiane] Conrad Conradt Elizabeth Elisabeth Fredericia Frederick Frederik Freiderich [Frederikke] (Hans) (Jesper) Johan Johannes John (Karen) Laurits Lars Ludvig Ludwig Marie Maria Mary Mathias Mathew possible father of Frederick Benner (Niels) (Peder) Regina Vivike Viveke (Wibech Wiwiche) COMPOUND NAMES Anne Elizabeth Anne Marie Christian Ludvig Neils Jesper Anna Cathrine Amalie Karen Hans Peder Hans Adolph
FREDERICK BENNER Family tradition and legend has It that Frederick Banner came to Denmark from Germany. Several things would validate this assumption. The surname Benner does not follow the Scandinavian system of patronymics, and there is no Danish word that even resembles the word "benner". However, It still remains to eliminate Benner as a Danish place name. There are several Benner families who originate from Bavaria In Germany; but that Is quite a distance from Denmark which would eliminate a casual migration or boundary line shift. If Frederick Benner was transplanted, say from Bavaria, or some other place In Germany, that might account for the fact that we do not know much about him. Also at the time of Frederick Benner's birth, 1708, Frederick the Great was King of Prussia which might have set a style in the naming of German boys after him. However, the king of Denmark at the same time was named Frederick. Frederick Benner's birth year has been determined by the fact that he was 70 years old when he died In 1778. Another factor that would give credence to his German origin is the names given to some of his children; names like Mathias, Elizabeth, Anne, Ludvig (especially) which are more German than Scandinavian. The family group sheets of Frederick Benner list his birthplace as "OF" Skanderborg, Skanderborg, Denmark. That preposition "of" Is used In no other instance and would Indicate that he was not born in Skanderborg but had probably lived there for a long time. We do know that he was married there in 1735 and died there 43 years later. The question then arises, what of his life from 1708 until 1735 or roughly his first 27 years ? He did marry Vibeche Jesperssen, the daughter of the shoemaker Jesper Rasmussen. Even though her birthplace is listed as "OF" Skanderborg, her name does follow the patronymic system. We do know who her father was (Jesper Rasmussen) and if he had been there long enough to become established as a shoemaker by the time his daughter Vibeche got married to Frederick, they must have been local Danish people for quite some time. The problem is then - how long would a German Immigrant, Frederick Benner, have to live in Danish Skanderborg to be accepted by the community, court and marry one of the local girls, all by the age of 27 ? He must have left Germany at least In his early 20's, but old enough to live without his parents or any other of his family. There is also a question as to Frederick Benner's occupation. Again family legend has it that he was the king's hatter (hat maker). Now, if he made hats for a German king it would mean one of two things; either Frederick Benner was doing an export business or he was a very young (pre- 27 year-old) pre-immigrant hatter. On the other hand he may have made hats for the Danish king, and would a Danish king let a German make his hats ? Frederick Benner's oldest surviving son, Ludvig, took up the trade of saddlemaker, which might have been a carry-over from his shoemaker grandfather on his mother's side (Jesper Rasmussen). But who back then in a local area such as Skanderborg could have afforded saddles for pleasure riding or hunting horses, unless Ludvig had some contact with the nobility or wealthy classes, which might have come from his father's hat making enterprise for the king. Also why would a Danish king sponsor a German Immigrant hatmaker unless that German hatmaker had been In Denmark a very long time, much more than just his early 20's - which case would mean that Frederick Benner came to Denmark as a young child and presumably, with someone. In summary then I would say this, Frederick Benner was from Germany, came to Denmark at a very early age with someone other than his immediate family and under more than casual migratory circumstances, settled In the area of Skanderborg, and was gradually absorbed Into that Danish society. Dennis M. Larsen (6th great grandson).


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